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skydown13
Senior Member
Mandarin
- Dec 1, 2012
- #1
Do you say it like "Layg" (like the word "lay") or like "Lehg" (like the word "beg")? So basically, does the middle part of the word sound like "ay" or like "beg"? Same problem goes with "Egg".
I used cambridge online dictionary and it sounds like layg to me.
timpeac
Senior Member
England
English (England)
- Dec 1, 2012
- #2
It rhymes with "beg". You can check the IPA symbols with the dictionary listing - leg /leɡ/
cyberpedant
Senior Member
North Adams, MA
English USA, Northeast, NYC
- Dec 1, 2012
- #3
timpeac's observation holds for most dialects of BE and AE. But you are sure to hear "layg" and "ayg" in many parts of the U.S. I wouldn't recommend imitating this pronunciation but if you plan to visit you should be ready for it.
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Cagey
post mod (English Only / Latin)
California
English - US
- Dec 1, 2012
- #4
Here is a relevant previous thread: egg [pronunciation]
It includes discussion of regional variations.
The Wiki article on Pacific Northwest English says:
/ɛ/, and, in the northern Pacific Northwest, /æ/, become [eɪ] before the voiced velar plosive /ɡ/: egg and leg are pronounced as ayg and layg, a feature shared by many northern Midwestern dialects and with the Utah accent. In addition, sometimes bag will be pronounced bayg.
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sdgraham
Senior Member
Oregon, USA
USA English
- Dec 1, 2012
- #5
Cagey said:
Here is a relevant previous thread: egg [pronunciation]
It includes discussion of regional variations.The Wiki article on Pacific Northwest English says:
/ɛ/, and, in the northern Pacific Northwest, /æ/, become [eɪ] before the voiced velar plosive /ɡ/: egg and leg are pronounced as ayg and layg, a feature shared by many northern Midwestern dialects and with the Utah accent. In addition, sometimes bag will be pronounced bayg.
As a longtime resident of the Pacific Northwest, I'm gobsmacked that I've never noticed this peculiarity.
I'll have to do some research.
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Cagey
post mod (English Only / Latin)
California
English - US
- Dec 1, 2012
- #6
sdgraham said:
As a longtime resident of the Pacific Northwest, I'm gobsmacked that I've never noticed this peculiarity.
I'll have to do some research.
Maybe you aren't the one who needs to do more research, but Wiki is.
In a misbegotten effort to simplify matters, I omitted to mention that in the thread linked to above, a poster from Washington also denies that he has ever heard the 'ayg' pronunciation.
natkretep
Moderato con anima (English Only)
Singapore
English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese
- Dec 1, 2012
- #7
Skydown, are you thinking of an accent of English in my region (Singapore, Malaysia)? It is not uncommon here for egg, leg, red and bed to have the vowel in made, different from the one in west or bend. In most of the rest of the English-speaking world, they have the same vowel.
I've listened to the version of egg in the Cambridge Dictionary. I don't think it sounds like ayg.
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skydown13
Senior Member
Mandarin
- Dec 1, 2012
- #8
Thanks for the Answers. I also listened to the pronounciation of "Leg" from Word Reference Dictionary and I campared the pronounciation with the one from Cambridge Dictionary. To me, they are very different. WR Dictionary is [lɛɡ] and Cambridge Dictionary sounds like "layg" or something between "leg" and 'layg".
natkretep said:
Skydown, are you thinking of an accent of English in my region (Singapore, Malaysia)? It is not uncommon here for egg, leg, red and bed to have the vowel in made, different from the one in west or bend. In most of the rest of the English-speaking world, they have the same vowel.
I've listened to the version of egg in the Cambridge Dictionary. I don't think it sounds like ayg.
natkretep
Moderato con anima (English Only)
Singapore
English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese
- Dec 1, 2012
- #9
There are some accents of English where the vowel in DRESS is closer (more raised) than in others. (And in the IPA for BrE, the symbol given is usually /e/ rather than /ɛ/.
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Zhi
Senior Member
Chinese
- Nov 11, 2016
- #10
Topic question: What's the accent that pronounces "leg" as "leig", and "egg" as "eigg"?
Added by Cagey, moderator.
I often hear American people pronounce this way. Is it an accent? I can only think of these two words but are there more? (I assume the number of them are limited, because obviously they don't pronounce let as leit, etc)
Thanks!
Newer question added to earlier discussion.
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Juhasz
Senior Member
English - United States
- Nov 11, 2016
- #11
Here's a previous discussion on the topic: Leg / Egg [pronunciation]
The short answer is: the Pacific Northwest, particularly the Seattle area, the Upper Midwest (Minnesota and Wisconsin)* and Canada, especially Western Canada. In that older thread, sdgraham insists that he, an Oregonian, has never heard anyone in the Pacific Northwest speak like this. I, a Seattle native, have heard this so-called "bag-beg" merger, but not too commonly.
Here's a paper on the subject: Bag, beg, bagel: Prevelar raising and merger in Pacific Northwest English | Department of Linguistics | University of Washington
Before the 1970s, most people moving to Washington were born in the Midwest: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...eople-in-each-state-were-born.html#Washington
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Zhi
Senior Member
Chinese
- Nov 11, 2016
- #12
Thanks so much Juhasz! It is extremely helpful!
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